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In Tune with Nature

I hear many people complaining about the terrible immoral society we are living in today. Even our environment is completely toxic. One also hears about people opting out of society. So I was interested to read recently about a well-educated couple who have done just that in Siberia.

Painter Alexander and musician Elena (surname not known) opted out of society to live in mud huts and primitive timber houses in the wild. They gave birth to a son about twenty years ago and educated him in all they know. Recently the young man has been discovered. His main ambition is not to move into Siberian society but to perfect his English which he has learned from a book!


'I'm living well thank you,' he says. 'We are living well. This is the reality we have that we live here, and it's quite a good reality. I am happy here.' His father says: 'Our son knows what labour is, and what creative work is. He could read and write aged five, and it all came naturally.' We want him to become a big artist, perhaps a poet.  A writer, but above all we want him to be a clever man; and a kind man, a true man.'

I doubt many parents would be prepared to go that far to escape modern society. But the number appears to be growing.

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I admire people who go "against the grain." If I had the chance to live my life over again, I would certainly consider something similar.
Sounds lovely to me.
i believe railing against modern society is a trend that goes back at least to ancient greece. i am glad that these three have found a life that works for them, but i do worry a bit about the 20-year-old. will he be able to find a life among his peers after his parents pass, having been raised without peers? will his later years be lonely or sad?
I wonder about that myself. Were they totally isolated, or does he have friends among indigenous Siberians? Does he know enough about the outside world to make his own decision to accept or reject it?

They are wearing unpatched modern clothing so they have some contact with the outside world, and some funds to buy clothing with, so I'm hoping that the boy hasn't been kept totally isolated.
Yes he was totally isolated. The father apparently sold some vegetables and paintings. I presume the nice clothes were for the photo shoot.
To me, that's kind of creepy to raise a child in isolation like that. Do they expect him to live with them until they die, and then live alone? Social skills are important to humans; we're by and large herd animals (Yes, I know some people are loners; I'm basically one, but even I need some human interaction). The parents made the choice to live this way, but the boy deserves to make that choice- as an informed choice- himself rather than having it forced on him.

Just my two cents.
I would really like to take the good and leave the bad, have the best of both worlds, when it comes to society. From a very early age, I wanted to be a hermit. I still have heavy leanings in that direction, but as I get older, I see more value in communities and being around like-minded people rather than being a complete lone wolf.
I suppose I should only call myself a semi-hermit.

Use the "modern world" selectively.
Be as natural and creative as possible.
Don't believe everything "society" accepts.
Choice is what we need.
Raising a child in such extreme isolation seems like an intolerably cruel thing to do, regardless of ones intentions. Children cannot make real choices if they are not exposed to a variety of options. And in this extreme isolation, how could he have friends or find love? How unimaginably, cruelly lonely will his world become when his parents die?

If adults want to engage in hermitage I have no problem with them- indeed, I have respect for them. But it is another matter to have a child under such conditions.
After his parents die it will still be his world, the only world he knows.
"Friends" and "love" are not the same for him as perhaps the more industrial world sees them.
We all live in the world we are born into and make our way in that world.
They have given him the skills to survive in the world he knows.
The need of people for others of their kind is not industrial- we are social beings, with a primal need for each other. That is why hermitage is such a profound spiritual and personal choice, and why no one should choose that denial for anyone but themselves.

I could raise my child in a safe little apartment, teach him to order what he needed from Amazon and Peapod, and tell him from infancy that the outside world was a corrupt and vicious place. He would know nothing else, he would have the skills he needed to survive in the world he knew, and he likely would not want to leave. Most people, after all, accept the way they are raised as true.

Even if I raised a child this way out of a motivation of safety and perhaps even love, I would have done a very evil thing to my child.
Well ... it's just Russia and the simplicity of the Russian character. A mysterious Russian soul. )))
There is a sterling example of which was successful businessman in the 90s, and then just took up farming. However, in Russia, these people are not so many who refuse to modern society and progress. And all over the world too.

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Ну... это просто Россия и простота русского характера. Загадочная русская душа. )))
Есть же пример Стерлингова, который был удачным бизнесменом в 90-е годы, а потом просто занялся фермерством. Однако, в России, таких людей не так уж много, кто отказывается от современного общества и прогресса. Да и во всем мире тоже.
It is nice to see one of my Russian friends replying.
It is great to see that people all over the world are at last getting fed-up with the way possessions have taken over our lives.